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« on: August 23, 2009, 04:37:34 PM »

This is getting to me now... Ive recently been working on a theory on how to do higher intelligence correctly. I noticed something where when you go into altered states the ability to do do more complex thought seems to disappear. On further research, it appears that normal consciousness simply disappears at this level. The reason likely is the linear mind cant function at this level. The first way to get around this was some clever way of bootstrapping higher intelligence in such a way to do some real thinking at that level. I still don't know how it worked, so don't bother asking. It seems the correct idea is actually to use Source energy or the Isness and synchronize with this. This does not seem to create thought in the normal linear war we usually think, but seems to create a sort of feedback loop where all thought is at one point. Its like a form of hyper intuition. Some people have talked about where they are at one with the universe and that may be similar to what I am seeing or feeling. This is also where my mind goes blank trying to figure out what it is.

If that makes sense to anyone, let me know. Guess Ill just say that its probably an altered state for the moment. Taking a guess, but this IS the right forum?
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2009, 04:50:13 PM »

This is getting to me now... Ive recently been working on a theory on how to do higher intelligence correctly. I noticed something where when you go into altered states the ability to do do more complex thought seems to disappear. On further research, it appears that normal consciousness simply disappears at this level. The reason likely is the linear mind cant function at this level. The first way to get around this was some clever way of bootstrapping higher intelligence in such a way to do some real thinking at that level. I still don't know how it worked, so don't bother asking. It seems the correct idea is actually to use Source energy or the Isness and synchronize with this. This does not seem to create thought in the normal linear war we usually think, but seems to create a sort of feedback loop where all thought is at one point. Its like a form of hyper intuition. Some people have talked about where they are at one with the universe and that may be similar to what I am seeing or feeling. This is also where my mind goes blank trying to figure out what it is.

If that makes sense to anyone, let me know. Guess Ill just say that its probably an altered state for the moment. Taking a guess, but this IS the right forum?

I can perform more complex thought in deeper trances. In the case of some things, I can only understand them while meditating...
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2009, 05:43:09 PM »

This is getting to me now... Ive recently been working on a theory on how to do higher intelligence correctly. I noticed something where when you go into altered states the ability to do do more complex thought seems to disappear. On further research, it appears that normal consciousness simply disappears at this level. The reason likely is the linear mind cant function at this level. The first way to get around this was some clever way of bootstrapping higher intelligence in such a way to do some real thinking at that level. I still don't know how it worked, so don't bother asking. It seems the correct idea is actually to use Source energy or the Isness and synchronize with this. This does not seem to create thought in the normal linear war we usually think, but seems to create a sort of feedback loop where all thought is at one point. Its like a form of hyper intuition. Some people have talked about where they are at one with the universe and that may be similar to what I am seeing or feeling. This is also where my mind goes blank trying to figure out what it is.

If that makes sense to anyone, let me know. Guess Ill just say that its probably an altered state for the moment. Taking a guess, but this IS the right forum?

I can perform more complex thought in deeper trances. In the case of some things, I can only understand them while meditating...

Things are easier in that type of trance especially psionic based
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2009, 08:57:25 PM »

actually I do know what you are talking about.  I gather you have only dipped your feet into the subject.  I have yet to be able to explain it better than your guess.  It's something you have to experience, not read about.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2009, 02:30:10 AM »

actually I do know what you are talking about.  I gather you have only dipped your feet into the subject.  I have yet to be able to explain it better than your guess.  It's something you have to experience, not read about.

That makes sense too. Ive been doing this for a while, but I have only recently been figuring out how Source fits in to all of this. All I can say is you have to experience it to understand it.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2009, 02:45:21 AM »

I have been doing this for a while too but only for reading books. I can read 1 page in ten seconds ( the Harry Potter type of books ).
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2009, 04:40:28 AM »

I have been doing this for a while too but only for reading books. I can read 1 page in ten seconds ( the Harry Potter type of books ).

Speed isn't what is important, it is understanding. I can read a few pages of shakespeare in 30 seconds. Will I understand all the intracacies of each and every statement? No.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 09:00:14 AM »

True....speed has nothing to do with it....and will often slow you down.

Patience is the KEY.  It takes Patience, Time, and Dedication.  The longer you practice, learn about it, feel the sensations, keep a log to describe them (becomes a timeline tool), allow yourself to absorb what you are feeling...allows you to reach the next higher steps.

Trying to overanalyze everything is not a good thing.  It tires you out, frustrates you when you are not achieving what you want, and destroys your focus on what you want to do.

The flow of energy you feel is as old as time.  Flow with it....the whole world does...as well.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2009, 02:59:17 PM »

Guess this was found then. Ive been reading over the board for a while and really should post more. Active psi communities are rare it seems. It take patience and a lot of skill to get anywhere in this. Ive been doing this for years, so I know. Someone said oyu need to stop thinking. The moment you stop thinking and start being, things start happenning.

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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2009, 04:58:22 PM »

Exactly......also referred to as getting to the state of 'no-mind'.
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 04:50:15 AM »

I have been doing this for a while too but only for reading books. I can read 1 page in ten seconds ( the Harry Potter type of books ).

Speed isn't what is important, it is understanding. I can read a few pages of shakespeare in 30 seconds. Will I understand all the intracacies of each and every statement? No.

I read fast and still understand at the same time. It's different in math books though.

Exactly......also referred to as getting to the state of 'no-mind'.

Am I in this state. I actually do stuff and didn't know I did it.
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2009, 04:12:20 PM »



That's why you need to give yourself time to understand what you are feeling when you do things.  Learn to pay attention to the small differences you feel.  Pay attention to them, and learn to identify them.  Once you get accustomed to doing this, over time, it won't be guesswork on your part, since you will really know that when you feel a certain way...you can identify what it means.
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2009, 07:21:59 PM »



That's why you need to give yourself time to understand what you are feeling when you do things.  Learn to pay attention to the small differences you feel.  Pay attention to them, and learn to identify them.  Once you get accustomed to doing this, over time, it won't be guesswork on your part, since you will really know that when you feel a certain way...you can identify what it means.

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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2009, 07:25:37 PM »

I have been doing this for a while too but only for reading books. I can read 1 page in ten seconds ( the Harry Potter type of books ).

Speed isn't what is important, it is understanding. I can read a few pages of shakespeare in 30 seconds. Will I understand all the intracacies of each and every statement? No.

I read fast and still understand at the same time. It's different in math books though.

Exactly......also referred to as getting to the state of 'no-mind'.

Am I in this state. I actually do stuff and didn't know I did it.

You may think you understand them, but you do not fully. The slower one goes, the more than understand. There is an time spent varies directly to understanding garnered from the piece. To use an example of something I'm reading right now, I can read Faust at a clipping pace and still understand what is happening. If I take my time I can appreciate the fact that the entirety of the book is a poem riddled with allusions to all manner of things (Including alchemical directions for the philosophers stone, goetia and one of the keys of Solomon to name a few for those interested in magick) And Mephistopheles constants schemings and ironic statements when taking the fact that Faust is a metaphor for Man (more precisely a paragon of Man).
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2009, 07:32:06 PM »

I have been doing this for a while too but only for reading books. I can read 1 page in ten seconds ( the Harry Potter type of books ).

Speed isn't what is important, it is understanding. I can read a few pages of shakespeare in 30 seconds. Will I understand all the intracacies of each and every statement? No.

I read fast and still understand at the same time. It's different in math books though.

Exactly......also referred to as getting to the state of 'no-mind'.

Am I in this state. I actually do stuff and didn't know I did it.

You may think you understand them, but you do not fully. The slower one goes, the more than understand. There is an time spent varies directly to understanding garnered from the piece. To use an example of something I'm reading right now, I can read Faust at a clipping pace and still understand what is happening. If I take my time I can appreciate the fact that the entirety of the book is a poem riddled with allusions to all manner of things (Including alchemical directions for the philosophers stone, goetia and one of the keys of Solomon to name a few for those interested in magick) And Mephistopheles constants schemings and ironic statements when taking the fact that Faust is a metaphor for Man (more precisely a paragon of Man).

I agree if we read fast we can still understand, but we can't enjoy. It's just like life.
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2009, 12:51:33 PM »



Reading fast allows you to 'taste the essence'.   Slowing down enough to enjoy it allows you to, not only, really 'taste  the flavor', but also to use all your senses...smell, taste, sight, sound and touch to really experience it.
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2010, 03:59:26 PM »



Reading fast allows you to 'taste the essence'.   Slowing down enough to enjoy it allows you to, not only, really 'taste  the flavor', but also to use all your senses...smell, taste, sight, sound and touch to really experience it.

I agree completely.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2010, 08:00:53 PM »

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